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Post time 2019-6-19 18:51:07 |Show all posts |
Dear all,

I just received my new M11. Beautiful device by the way! - Contrary to my X7 Mark II, I cannot seem to be able to install the google play store app in order to install other software nor update the currently installed google chrome browser. Please advise how to proceed.

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Post time 2019-6-21 15:35:58 |Show all posts |
Dear friend,


In Android 7.0 or newer Android version, the Google play service is only supported after passing the GMS certification. Currently, Google has closed the channel of GMS certification for version before Android 9.0.
Since any development for the M11 should be based on the SoC used--Samsung 7872 and its Software Development Kit (SDK). But unfortunately, the supplier can only provide it in Android 7.0. So we can’t find a solution to upgrade to higher version while bypassing the provided SDK. Hope you can kindly understand.

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Post time 2019-6-21 20:58:17 |Show all posts |
FiiO replied at 2019-6-21 15:35
Dear friend,

And this is supposed to be your flagship product??  That's like putting the engine from a lawn mower into a Formula One race car and selling it with the claim that it can compete and possibly win a race.  

It's nice to see that, as always, Fiio has an excuse.  The problem is that they blame every issue with every product on the chip makers.  Did those chip makers put a gun to your head and make you choose to put them in your devices?  Or, did you simply not due the proper due diligence when choosing the chipsets that you use in your products?  The bottom line is that this is a problem that FIIO created and unfortunately Fiio is wonderful at creating problems but not so hot when it comes to resolving them.
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Post time 2019-6-21 22:16:32 |Show all posts |
FiiO replied at 2019-6-21 15:35
Dear friend,

Dear Friend,

Thank you for clear explanation! - I believe though this should be highlighted. Having already the X7MarkII, this was not an issue and this upgrade should be an effective upgrade, though the device perse is one.
Not speaking for all here in the forum who all have different needs I believe, my quest was at being able to use another player such as DoubleTwist or Onkyo player that provide not only the usual "artist" / "genre" / "album" and so forth, but also the "Composer". While many may not listen to classical music, for those who do, this is an imperative: When you have 400 CDs on your device, you must first look at Composer and then find your CD. Kindly ask your development team to see if they include another tab in the music broswer which has "composer". This is what those two players provide.
Best to you all and have a nice weekend
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Post time 2019-6-21 22:53:33 |Show all posts |
IBCotts replied at 2019-6-21 20:58
And this is supposed to be your flagship product??  That's like putting the engine from a lawn mow ...

Dear IBCotts,
I believe you are right at that, your metaphor is quite coloured
At the end, independantly of their choice, customers like ourselves have expectations of upgrade when it is sold as such. In my case, like you, it's a big disappointment.
Stay cool. I guess there is not much to do else. Have a good weekend,
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Post time 2019-6-23 04:17:14 |Show all posts |
Edited by superbike999 at 2019-6-23 04:19
IBCotts replied at 2019-6-21 20:58
And this is supposed to be your flagship product??  That's like putting the engine from a lawn mow ...

What the FiiO rep says is correct.  I bought the new iBasso DX220 two days ago.  It has Android 8.1 installed.  It has the same problem which FiiO describe, and iBasso give the same explanation for the lack of Google Play Store.  As a matter of interest, the DX220 is nowhere as good as my FiiO X7ii, so I am sending the iBasso back
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Post time 2019-6-23 04:26:48 |Show all posts |
superbike999 replied at 2019-6-23 04:17
What the FiiO rep says is correct.  I bought the new iBasso DX220 two days ago.  It has Android 8.1 ...

iBasso has a mod (Lurker mod) which add Google Play without any tam-tam dancing.
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Post time 2019-6-24 08:33:47 |Show all posts |
Edited by irwanrz at 2019-6-24 07:35

So there will be no chance to get Google Play Store working on Fiio M11???
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Post time 2019-6-24 19:48:37 |Show all posts |
irwanrz replied at 2019-6-24 01:33
So there will be no chance to get Google Play Store working on Fiio M11???

Nope.......
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Post time 2019-6-25 04:52:00 |Show all posts |
behemoth_kat replied at 2019-6-23 04:26
iBasso has a mod (Lurker mod) which add Google Play without any tam-tam dancing.

Yes, thank you, I was aware of that.  I found the iBasso a big disappointment, not as good as the X7ii in either the sound quality or firmware/software.  I have returned the iBasso for a refund due to various faults
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Post time 2019-6-27 17:45:35 |Show all posts |
superbike999 replied at 2019-6-25 04:52
Yes, thank you, I was aware of that.  I found the iBasso a big disappointment, not as good as the  ...

I have mixed experience. I have planar headphones among others, you may know planar has low sensivity comparing to DD or BA. iBasso able to drive them very good.
However, software q-ty, battery life, some other aspects really can make a lot of disappointments

So, staying now on both DAPs
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Post time 2019-7-4 08:26:21 |Show all posts |
FiiO replied at 2019-6-21 15:35
Dear friend,

Dear Friends of Fiio:

Many cellphones have the same SOC 7872 as Meizu M6s or another Samsung cellphones, these ones can update to Android , if you will wanted, you could talk with Samsung, for They give you SDK upgrade and upgrade to Android 9
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Post time 2019-7-4 08:34:29 |Show all posts |
Fiio has made a terrible mistake, because we can't install apps as USB Audio Player Pro, I bought M11 and I can't install music apps like Poweramp and USB Audio Player Pro or other app that need Google Play Store verified, You should be talk with Samsung to upgrade the software and can be installed Android 9
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Post time 2019-7-15 13:04:31 |Show all posts |
Fiio really needs to fix this issue in US. Without google play services, I cannot use any streaming app that I already paid for. I don't care about app store but I really do need google play services for yt music, apple music, and other music apps. Now, even Chrome is complaining to update the browser, but I can't... I will see outdated google chrome browser forever, which it came preinstalled with. Google play services play a huge role everywhere else besides China, and I am thinking of returning my m11, which I really enjoy using sofar as that is a deal breaker for me. We really need something here... anything, even links to google play firmware that i can install, since I know there are other ways of installing play services from other Chinese smartphones and none google play services supported devices like Amazon fire tablet. I would really like some input into this issue. It really is a big issue that I want to highlight. Maybe I will return this and wait for the next version with play store.
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Post time 2019-7-25 01:27:57 |Show all posts |
Hi

I have no real interest in Google Play Services.  But has anyone tried the Yalp Store to get around this Google Certificate crap?

Here are a couple of links that might help:
https://android.gadgethacks.com/ ... device-ban-0184253/

https://www.androidpolice.com/20 ... devices-heres-deal/

Hope one of these solutions works for you!
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Post time 2019-9-5 20:04:41 |Show all posts |
Has someone tried to apply for an exemption as suggested by Google itself.

https://www.google.com/android/uncertified/
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Post time 2019-9-7 01:16:22 |Show all posts |
To pascalino: and shouldn't that come from FiiO?  I like to see an effort made in that regard.

What say you FiiO?
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Post time 2019-9-7 14:25:42 |Show all posts |
It is something targeted at software developer and people who  use customs ROM in their phones, but it would be useful to know if this workaround let you install google play services. Anyway is something only the end user can do, not FIIO.
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Post time 2019-9-9 07:21:29 |Show all posts |
No. If so, document your work around.

bottom line: If there is to be an appeal to google, if should come from FiiO.
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Post time 2019-9-9 15:11:28 |Show all posts |
Edited by pascalino at 2019-9-9 20:04

What can FIIO do is get their devices certified by Google if it is technically possible. I don't know if it is. FIIO says at the moment it is not. What I suggested to try has nothing to do with the certification and it is something targeted at developers and advanced users that run customs ROM on their devices. There is nothing to document.  There is no appeal to be made, we are not in a court room. I thought I had been clear, It is very straightforward. If you have a FIIO M11 you can try, you have nothing to lose.
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